I'm in the market for an 8 channel analogue desk to add to the inventory. I've decided to let the Mackie DL1608 go as we've struck a few charging and connection issues of late and we really need something analogue for outside users for basic gigs.
Well covered for bigger/sophisticated concerts with the Soundcraft Expression range.
Short listed are Allen & Heath ZED6014FX and Soundcraft MFXi8 with the Mixwizard WZ4 12:2 as an outsider (at twice the price).
All the above have suitable EQ/preamps/aux sends, remember anything more complex gets an Expression.
My question is to do with onboard FX, particularly reverbs. I haven't found much about the quality and flexibility of the A&H reverbs and I'm wondering if they'd stack up to the Soundcraft. I have found even entry level Lexicon to be superior to the competition. Not so long ago I ditched a Mackie ProFX as the reverbs were very poor, and the DL1608 are workable but nothing special. I'd like to avoid outboard.
Anyone managed to do a direct comparison between A&H and Soundcraft reverbs?
Thanks as always.
BobWell here it is folks the new upgrade to the legendary zed 10FX
Only just out so i snatched one up and used it at one of my gigs .
This is the older Zed 10FX :
This is the new Zed 60-10 fx :
ok i own both these products and they are brilliant .
The TWO MAJOR changes to the new zed are .
1 : FADERS !!! yaaaaayyyy
2 : seperate channel MUTES .
These was the 2 major things that put me off using the zed 10fx .
We have the same effects processor , same excellent mic pre outs , same SIZE.
What is not to like about this mixer ... well i have 2 things :
1. Effects .. being a solo cabaret performer for 20 + years effects are a major importance and my dynacord cms 1000 was SWEET for this, the ZEDs is just OK at best ! the question i have was is the downgrade in effects on the zed worth it :
my answer was yes bearing in mind :
a: the dynacord was 1200 quid compared to zed £249
b: The size and weight of the dynacord was way to big for 2 channels that i use !
the small sacrifice of lesser quality effects was a fair one IMO .
2. THE PRICE ....
well the price of the older ZED 10 is just £249
the new zed 60-10 is a whopping £399 !!!!!! not so cheap anymore !!!!
Other than that , this new install from allan and heath is a massive step forward in small mixers. absolute quality and i am very happy to leave my dynacord cms 1000-mark 3 at home.
For me the major factor is the sixe , i can slip this zed into a little laptop messenger bag and im on my way out the club door , rather than a full size heavy gator case on my shoulder takin half the furniture with me on the way out !
ZED-12FX is ideal for groups who need to travel light. Even with its small footprint, the 12FX squeezes in 4 auxiliary channels and swept semi-parametric EQ on top of the already impressive feature set including configurable USB audio in/out makes it easy to capture stereo recordings.
Well covered for bigger/sophisticated concerts with the Soundcraft Expression range.
Short listed are Allen & Heath ZED6014FX and Soundcraft MFXi8 with the Mixwizard WZ4 12:2 as an outsider (at twice the price).
All the above have suitable EQ/preamps/aux sends, remember anything more complex gets an Expression.
My question is to do with onboard FX, particularly reverbs. I haven't found much about the quality and flexibility of the A&H reverbs and I'm wondering if they'd stack up to the Soundcraft. I have found even entry level Lexicon to be superior to the competition. Not so long ago I ditched a Mackie ProFX as the reverbs were very poor, and the DL1608 are workable but nothing special. I'd like to avoid outboard.
Anyone managed to do a direct comparison between A&H and Soundcraft reverbs?
Thanks as always.
BobWell here it is folks the new upgrade to the legendary zed 10FX
Only just out so i snatched one up and used it at one of my gigs .
This is the older Zed 10FX :
This is the new Zed 60-10 fx :
ok i own both these products and they are brilliant .
The TWO MAJOR changes to the new zed are .
1 : FADERS !!! yaaaaayyyy
2 : seperate channel MUTES .
These was the 2 major things that put me off using the zed 10fx .
We have the same effects processor , same excellent mic pre outs , same SIZE.
I LOVE this mixer , u get all the benefits of the award winning zed 10FX but with the mutes and sliders .
What is not to like about this mixer ... well i have 2 things :
1. Effects .. being a solo cabaret performer for 20 + years effects are a major importance and my dynacord cms 1000 was SWEET for this, the ZEDs is just OK at best ! the question i have was is the downgrade in effects on the zed worth it :
my answer was yes bearing in mind :
a: the dynacord was 1200 quid compared to zed £249
b: The size and weight of the dynacord was way to big for 2 channels that i use !
the small sacrifice of lesser quality effects was a fair one IMO .
2. THE PRICE ....
well the price of the older ZED 10 is just £249
the new zed 60-10 is a whopping £399 !!!!!! not so cheap anymore !!!!
Other than that , this new install from allan and heath is a massive step forward in small mixers. absolute quality and i am very happy to leave my dynacord cms 1000-mark 3 at home.
For me the major factor is the sixe , i can slip this zed into a little laptop messenger bag and im on my way out the club door , rather than a full size heavy gator case on my shoulder takin half the furniture with me on the way out !